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can we get a rishi's jungle jam matchmaking discord?

verry intresting thx for the video

I hope YL wins a major in the next 10 years supermajor hard cope

This video aged poorly bc hbox is still winning majors in 2024 and the official tier list has puff at number 3 in the game over falco

2:22 the nerfs and ucf fix all of that

You can also jump cancel throw bombs

This has aged well

the analyst vs doer stuff reminds me of system 1 and 2 from the core a gaming vid "playing fast and slow"

The king is back!

no way is my man wavedashing on the sdvx controller

Hot Take: If you're going 0-2 at your local, it ain't the controller's fault bub

What skills do we value in competition? Surely, we would prefer players not having advantages and disadvantages over their opponent before they even sit down to play? If we're at the olympics and one guy gets steroids and the others don't. Do we still value the skills of the steroid user? If one guy is allowed shoes and the others can only afford sandals, is it a fair competition? You could argue that leverless controllers must be allowed for accessibility. However, we don't expect handicapped people to compete against abled people in the olympics. They get their own separate bracket. We could do that in smash as well. 1. Stock, vanilla, oem gcc-only events. 2. Any modified controller, notched, springless, z-jump, goom wave, leverless, rectangle, dk bongos, ddr pad, guitar hero, etc events. If you want to box with cement gloves, then it's only fair if your opponent does the same.

Imagine how intimidating the glyph must look to new players... so many buttons...

I thought this was an april fools' video at first

Yoshi would be at B with Peach nowadays, because of a better Marth match up.

melee is way too popular right now so its seems like a good time to raise the barrier to entry

There's minor edges to the capabilities of box and minor edges to the capabilities of gcc. Thats all it is tho, minor. If you think you lost a game just cause your op was on box, i believe the phrase is, "get gud."

As a hand problem having Melee player, I'm just happy it's possible to enjoy the game without reaching my pain limit after 30 minutes

People that use boxes probably cheat on their girlfriends, hate the sound of children laughing and like tossing boxes of puppies in nearby rivers for fun.

I think something that gets missed a lot too is that it’s really annoying or expensive to get a proper GameCube controller. One that’s fully fit for the game (notches, no snap back etc,) is often much harder to get for many people than a box style controller. It’s only going to get harder to get decent GameCube controller’s over time so I think it’s at the very least short sighted to ban boxes. Getting a controller that’s actually good enough to be used for some characters is already a huge barrier to entry regardless of if it’s a box style or GCC so it would really suck to make the problem even worse

This could all be solved by running modded controllers tournaments and standard gcc controller tournaments. all of that creating new modded ethical controllers discourse would then be able to flourish in its own scene and standard gcc players would be able to flourish in their own scene. As it is rn, it’s like having heavyweight boxers go against welterweight. Or any numerous other similar examples you could draw from sports and esports

That's why I bought a frame1! Its far cheaper than glyph and also allows you to play 2D fighters and platform fighters but far more seemlessly.

I prefer to call them abcs. All button controllers

i really appreciated your insight into rulesets as a whole and how they relate to this discussion, and your interpretation of ethics fits well in this context. though to hear you say "what even is ergonomics?" when repetitive strain injury is so rampant in the gaming community was a bit of a surprise. trying to do more than one waveshine in a row on GCC makes me feel like im holding a 20,000 volt joy buzzer. no such problem on LBX

hot take, i think all competition is inherently unfair because humans and our environments are so complex. some humans are just gonna have an easier time fighting than others, so we make weight classes to try and balance things out. but weight isn't everything, and even if it was, setting arbitrary brackets for what "middleweight" is is still going to bias against people in the lower end of the bracket. it'll never be "fair". leverless controllers are better than traditional GC controllers for obvious reasons. we can try to regulate them in the interest of fairness, but i think we'd be chasing our own tails. i think it's better to try and shift our culture to value individual growth, individual values, rather than winning over others. the guy who shows up to fighting game tournaments with a guitar hero guitar, or the guy with the racing wheel, are still "playing to win". their definition of "win" is just one where it's not "triumph over others", it's "do well and put on a show with what you've got". the blind SFV ken player is the sickest dude in the world even if he didn't win a major. i think that'd be a much healthier way to view things in all competitions. also fuck leffen

Rivals 2 mentioned

my sister has developed a condition similar to haxs and cannot play with me anymore. the moral argument is huge. best not ruin people lives for no reason

They banned hax but wanna keep his technology

if its really about ergonomics then just learn better technique in your tech skill execution. learning to not hurt your hands is totally possible. i don't understand why rectangle controllers didn't use an analogue stick. there is value in the angles man

RISHI??? LIKE FISHI???

I feel like the Melee scene takes a lot of time to decide to do anything. We've allowed Box and Phob controllers without really thinking about what impact they have. I'm a purist so i think they should be removed, but i don't speak for everyone.

dark magician marth skin????

yay.. welcome back

It’s a GameCube game. It’s been played on GameCube controllers for 20 years. It should only ever be played on GameCube controllers. The end

i like the end it funny

ergonomic means my thumbs dont scream after shffling for 10 mins

2:33 Is that Rhythm game controller?

fuck box im ableist af when it comes to box

bruh what the hell is the point of using that? I could deadass type full sentences with periods and numbers on that controller if I bound them all to keys. Just get a keyboard adapter deadass 💀

"by the way -- what does ergonomic even mean?" It means you won't get a repetitive strain injury from using it for hours each day

The Frame 1 also has textured pbt on rev1/2 heavies and discontinued offering smooth abs midway through Rev2 of the lights? I know its a bit of an april fools video, but outside of the differences between melee/other fighters, I dont feel like anything of note was really expressed

Thought you were actually gonna pick a side

instructions unclear, i am now evil junebug

2:31 SDVX controller spotted 👀👀

i love box controllers

The goated melee youtuber

Im gonna be a stickler for a second here... IDK if im getting april fooled, but the explanation of SOCD included a pretty frequent misunderstanding of what the word SOCD actually refers to. You said correctly that socd is what happens when you press 2 opposite directions. BUT, you then gave demonstrations of what the inputs would look like SOCD, vs without SOCD. This isn't what the word means. A box cantroller can not have NO SOCD. All boxes have different SOCD "resolutions", that dictate what the conteoller does when 2 opposites are pressed. What you described as "With SOCD" is what is called "Second input priority" SOCD. or 2ip for short. What you described as "No SOCD" is what is called "Neutral" SOCD, or NSOCD. 2ip is what is most common with purchased boxes in melee. NSOCD is the most popular choice for SOCD going further as part of a ruleset in melee. However, it IS possible to have a controller with no SOCD resolution. This is when the controller sends both left AND right to the game. This was possible in some oldschool fgc's, and caused new mechanics otherwise unavilable. HOWEVER. This isnt relevant to melee because the gamecube controller cable is literally incapable of transmitting a simultaneous left and right input. Sorry for the long writeup, I just think there is a lot of misunderstanding around what SOCD is, and what people mean when they talk about it

LETS GO RISHI UPLOADED!!!

What a pleasant surprise! Rishi’s back

Thanks as always Rishi :D